diff --git a/effects.cpp b/effects.cpp
index c93782e89b..82a50fbcea 100644
--- a/effects.cpp
+++ b/effects.cpp
@@ -1482,7 +1482,7 @@ bool EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect(const QString& name, bool checkDefault)
     }
 
     if (Effect *e = loadBuiltInEffect(internalname.remove(QStringLiteral("kwin4_effect_")).toUtf8(), checkDefault)) {
-        effect_order.insert(service->property(QStringLiteral("X-KDE-Ordering")).toInt(), EffectPair(name, e));
+        effect_order.insert(e->requestedEffectChainPosition(), EffectPair(name, e));
         effectsChanged();
         return true;
     }
@@ -1563,7 +1563,7 @@ bool EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect(const QString& name, bool checkDefault)
 
     Effect* e = create();
 
-    effect_order.insert(service->property(QStringLiteral("X-KDE-Ordering")).toInt(), EffectPair(name, e));
+    effect_order.insert(e->requestedEffectChainPosition(), EffectPair(name, e));
     effectsChanged();
     effect_libraries[ name ] = library;
 
@@ -1600,12 +1600,12 @@ bool EffectsHandlerImpl::loadScriptedEffect(const QString& name, KService *servi
         qDebug() << "Could not locate the effect script";
         return false;
     }
-    ScriptedEffect *effect = ScriptedEffect::create(name, scriptFile);
+    ScriptedEffect *effect = ScriptedEffect::create(name, scriptFile, service->property(QStringLiteral("X-KDE-Ordering")).toInt());
     if (!effect) {
         qDebug() << "Could not initialize scripted effect: " << name;
         return false;
     }
-    effect_order.insert(service->property(QStringLiteral("X-KDE-Ordering")).toInt(), EffectPair(name, effect));
+    effect_order.insert(effect->requestedEffectChainPosition(), EffectPair(name, effect));
     effectsChanged();
     return true;
 }
diff --git a/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.desktop b/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.desktop
index 4f321f0437..c926937a0b 100644
--- a/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.desktop
+++ b/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.desktop
@@ -72,6 +72,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=76
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Requires-Shaders=true
diff --git a/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.h b/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.h
index ea61400c0f..da7999d897 100644
--- a/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.h
+++ b/effects/backgroundcontrast/contrast.h
@@ -52,6 +52,10 @@ public:
 
     virtual bool provides(Feature feature);
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 76;
+    }
+
 public Q_SLOTS:
     void slotWindowAdded(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
     void slotPropertyNotify(KWin::EffectWindow *w, long atom);
diff --git a/effects/blur/blur.desktop b/effects/blur/blur.desktop
index 58d87854fa..edb382664d 100644
--- a/effects/blur/blur.desktop
+++ b/effects/blur/blur.desktop
@@ -165,6 +165,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=75
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Requires-Shaders=true
diff --git a/effects/blur/blur.h b/effects/blur/blur.h
index d12c692016..fe70b6de45 100644
--- a/effects/blur/blur.h
+++ b/effects/blur/blur.h
@@ -57,6 +57,10 @@ public:
     }
     virtual bool provides(Feature feature);
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 75;
+    }
+
 public Q_SLOTS:
     void slotWindowAdded(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
     void slotWindowDeleted(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
diff --git a/effects/coverswitch/coverswitch.h b/effects/coverswitch/coverswitch.h
index 75ebdfb58a..17307e4e49 100644
--- a/effects/coverswitch/coverswitch.h
+++ b/effects/coverswitch/coverswitch.h
@@ -91,6 +91,10 @@ public:
         return secondaryTabBox;
     }
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
 public Q_SLOTS:
     void slotWindowClosed(KWin::EffectWindow *c);
     void slotTabBoxAdded(int mode);
diff --git a/effects/cube/cube.desktop b/effects/cube/cube.desktop
index 5ae4e925f2..f69e329508 100644
--- a/effects/cube/cube.desktop
+++ b/effects/cube/cube.desktop
@@ -164,6 +164,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/desktop_cube.ogv
diff --git a/effects/cube/cube.h b/effects/cube/cube.h
index 71338c91dd..8adb6c5f2d 100644
--- a/effects/cube/cube.h
+++ b/effects/cube/cube.h
@@ -68,6 +68,10 @@ public:
     virtual void windowInputMouseEvent(QEvent* e);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     // proxy functions
     virtual void* proxy();
     void registerCubeInsideEffect(CubeInsideEffect* effect);
diff --git a/effects/cube/cubeslide.desktop b/effects/cube/cubeslide.desktop
index 9023e670a3..4e781e785b 100644
--- a/effects/cube/cubeslide.desktop
+++ b/effects/cube/cubeslide.desktop
@@ -146,7 +146,6 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/desktop_cube_animation.ogv
 X-KWin-Exclusive-Category=desktop-animations
diff --git a/effects/cube/cubeslide.h b/effects/cube/cubeslide.h
index 4f346c0fb4..92369f18a6 100644
--- a/effects/cube/cubeslide.h
+++ b/effects/cube/cubeslide.h
@@ -49,6 +49,10 @@ public:
     virtual void paintWindow(EffectWindow* w, int mask, QRegion region, WindowPaintData& data);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     static bool supported();
 
     // for properties
diff --git a/effects/dashboard/dashboard.desktop b/effects/dashboard/dashboard.desktop
index 25ff4eca8f..7b9ab23a15 100644
--- a/effects/dashboard/dashboard.desktop
+++ b/effects/dashboard/dashboard.desktop
@@ -145,5 +145,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=85
 X-KWin-Internal=true
diff --git a/effects/dashboard/dashboard.h b/effects/dashboard/dashboard.h
index 2b1ba239a9..9c46f12ebf 100644
--- a/effects/dashboard/dashboard.h
+++ b/effects/dashboard/dashboard.h
@@ -43,6 +43,10 @@ public:
     virtual void reconfigure(ReconfigureFlags);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 85;
+    }
+
     // for properties
     qreal configuredBrightness() const {
         return brightness;
diff --git a/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.desktop b/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.desktop
index e6fc40fafd..31014e30f8 100644
--- a/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.desktop
+++ b/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.desktop
@@ -157,5 +157,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/desktop_grid.mp4
diff --git a/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.h b/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.h
index a9d5577e1e..9c31b6729e 100644
--- a/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.h
+++ b/effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.h
@@ -70,6 +70,10 @@ public:
     virtual bool borderActivated(ElectricBorder border);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     enum { LayoutPager, LayoutAutomatic, LayoutCustom }; // Layout modes
 
     // for properties
diff --git a/effects/diminactive/diminactive.desktop b/effects/diminactive/diminactive.desktop
index 62704f7141..5e4f990258 100644
--- a/effects/diminactive/diminactive.desktop
+++ b/effects/diminactive/diminactive.desktop
@@ -160,5 +160,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/dim_inactive.mp4
diff --git a/effects/diminactive/diminactive.h b/effects/diminactive/diminactive.h
index 32fec7f538..3eee204d3e 100644
--- a/effects/diminactive/diminactive.h
+++ b/effects/diminactive/diminactive.h
@@ -45,6 +45,10 @@ public:
     virtual void prePaintScreen(ScreenPrePaintData& data, int time);
     virtual void paintWindow(EffectWindow* w, int mask, QRegion region, WindowPaintData& data);
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     // for properties
     bool isDimPanels() const {
         return dim_panels;
diff --git a/effects/fallapart/fallapart.desktop b/effects/fallapart/fallapart.desktop
index 6705e7db20..e44380b264 100644
--- a/effects/fallapart/fallapart.desktop
+++ b/effects/fallapart/fallapart.desktop
@@ -160,5 +160,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=70
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
diff --git a/effects/fallapart/fallapart.h b/effects/fallapart/fallapart.h
index 6b23c030b0..6ac3d93914 100644
--- a/effects/fallapart/fallapart.h
+++ b/effects/fallapart/fallapart.h
@@ -40,6 +40,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintScreen();
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 70;
+    }
+
     // for properties
     int configuredBlockSize() const {
         return blockSize;
diff --git a/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.desktop b/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.desktop
index 70f1ff598e..dc9a7c1653 100644
--- a/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.desktop
+++ b/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.desktop
@@ -148,6 +148,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/flip_switch.mp4
diff --git a/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.h b/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.h
index 460a9aab3f..058e6b3835 100644
--- a/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.h
+++ b/effects/flipswitch/flipswitch.h
@@ -53,6 +53,10 @@ public:
     virtual void windowInputMouseEvent(QEvent* e);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     static bool supported();
 
     // for properties
diff --git a/effects/glide/glide.desktop b/effects/glide/glide.desktop
index 0f0a4fe4fd..6191766756 100644
--- a/effects/glide/glide.desktop
+++ b/effects/glide/glide.desktop
@@ -134,5 +134,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
diff --git a/effects/glide/glide.h b/effects/glide/glide.h
index 487fe30670..81e11a9699 100644
--- a/effects/glide/glide.h
+++ b/effects/glide/glide.h
@@ -47,6 +47,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintWindow(EffectWindow* w);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     static bool supported();
 
     // for properties
diff --git a/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.desktop b/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.desktop
index b5505338b7..02491a22d1 100644
--- a/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.desktop
+++ b/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.desktop
@@ -146,6 +146,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Category=Appearance
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
-X-KDE-Ordering=70
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
 X-KWin-Internal=true
diff --git a/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.h b/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.h
index 4cfd2081e4..ea2a1ea4f2 100644
--- a/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.h
+++ b/effects/highlightwindow/highlightwindow.h
@@ -38,6 +38,10 @@ public:
     virtual void paintWindow(EffectWindow* w, int mask, QRegion region, WindowPaintData& data);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 70;
+    }
+
 public Q_SLOTS:
     void slotWindowAdded(KWin::EffectWindow* w);
     void slotWindowClosed(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
diff --git a/effects/kscreen/kscreen.desktop b/effects/kscreen/kscreen.desktop
index 922da46899..fc6860ff5b 100644
--- a/effects/kscreen/kscreen.desktop
+++ b/effects/kscreen/kscreen.desktop
@@ -91,7 +91,6 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=99
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=false
 X-KWin-Requires-Shaders=false
 X-KWin-Internal=true
diff --git a/effects/kscreen/kscreen.h b/effects/kscreen/kscreen.h
index 278deeda09..b6b5c7a029 100644
--- a/effects/kscreen/kscreen.h
+++ b/effects/kscreen/kscreen.h
@@ -43,6 +43,10 @@ public:
     void reconfigure(ReconfigureFlags flags);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 99;
+    }
+
 private Q_SLOTS:
     void propertyNotify(KWin::EffectWindow *window, long atom);
 
diff --git a/effects/logout/logout.desktop b/effects/logout/logout.desktop
index 13da61a1b8..ad89f18e56 100644
--- a/effects/logout/logout.desktop
+++ b/effects/logout/logout.desktop
@@ -165,4 +165,3 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=85
diff --git a/effects/logout/logout.h b/effects/logout/logout.h
index 0180e28bbc..8cb6f24756 100644
--- a/effects/logout/logout.h
+++ b/effects/logout/logout.h
@@ -47,6 +47,10 @@ public:
     virtual void paintWindow(EffectWindow* w, int mask, QRegion region, WindowPaintData& data);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 85;
+    }
+
     // for properties
     bool isUseBlur() const {
         return useBlur;
diff --git a/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.desktop b/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.desktop
index d2c6f87e06..c3e3005b66 100644
--- a/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.desktop
+++ b/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.desktop
@@ -156,7 +156,6 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/magic_lamp.ogv
 X-KWin-Exclusive-Category=minimize
diff --git a/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.h b/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.h
index 0a6b0f4f18..373c9930ae 100644
--- a/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.h
+++ b/effects/magiclamp/magiclamp.h
@@ -43,6 +43,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintScreen();
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     static bool supported();
 
     // for properties
diff --git a/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.desktop b/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.desktop
index 8eae515f13..70b2bc3020 100644
--- a/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.desktop
+++ b/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.desktop
@@ -163,6 +163,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/minimize.ogv
 X-KWin-Exclusive-Category=minimize
diff --git a/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.h b/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.h
index 7e71625657..f6fd13d2e8 100644
--- a/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.h
+++ b/effects/minimizeanimation/minimizeanimation.h
@@ -45,6 +45,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintScreen();
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
 public Q_SLOTS:
     void slotWindowDeleted(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
     void slotWindowMinimized(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
diff --git a/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.desktop b/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.desktop
index fc19bf2ac9..9386f75054 100644
--- a/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.desktop
+++ b/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.desktop
@@ -159,5 +159,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=70
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/present_windows.mp4
diff --git a/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.h b/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.h
index ac2699a337..594e5ad4ab 100644
--- a/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.h
+++ b/effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.h
@@ -124,6 +124,10 @@ public:
     virtual void grabbedKeyboardEvent(QKeyEvent *e);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 70;
+    }
+
     enum { LayoutNatural, LayoutRegularGrid, LayoutFlexibleGrid }; // Layout modes
     enum PresentWindowsMode {
         ModeAllDesktops, // Shows windows of all desktops
diff --git a/effects/resize/resize.desktop b/effects/resize/resize.desktop
index 480ef0259a..7d11ba5042 100644
--- a/effects/resize/resize.desktop
+++ b/effects/resize/resize.desktop
@@ -131,4 +131,3 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=60
diff --git a/effects/resize/resize.h b/effects/resize/resize.h
index 5b1610fe06..4b79bbc98e 100644
--- a/effects/resize/resize.h
+++ b/effects/resize/resize.h
@@ -44,6 +44,10 @@ public:
     virtual void paintWindow(EffectWindow* w, int mask, QRegion region, WindowPaintData& data);
     virtual void reconfigure(ReconfigureFlags);
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 60;
+    }
+
     bool isTextureScale() const {
         return m_features & TextureScale;
     }
diff --git a/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.desktop b/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.desktop
index d241796439..e4103a844a 100644
--- a/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.desktop
+++ b/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.desktop
@@ -94,4 +94,3 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=90
diff --git a/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.h b/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.h
index 7e1b78a8d4..94e7c6d3f6 100644
--- a/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.h
+++ b/effects/screenedge/screenedgeeffect.h
@@ -39,6 +39,11 @@ public:
     virtual void prePaintScreen(ScreenPrePaintData &data, int time);
     virtual void paintScreen(int mask, QRegion region, ScreenPaintData &data);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
+
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 90;
+    }
+
 private Q_SLOTS:
     void edgeApproaching(ElectricBorder border, qreal factor, const QRect &geometry);
     void cleanup();
diff --git a/effects/screenshot/screenshot.desktop b/effects/screenshot/screenshot.desktop
index 8750badfdd..39069aaed8 100644
--- a/effects/screenshot/screenshot.desktop
+++ b/effects/screenshot/screenshot.desktop
@@ -128,5 +128,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Internal=true
diff --git a/effects/screenshot/screenshot.h b/effects/screenshot/screenshot.h
index a7439df458..eed72a54ba 100644
--- a/effects/screenshot/screenshot.h
+++ b/effects/screenshot/screenshot.h
@@ -42,6 +42,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintScreen();
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
     static bool supported();
     static void convertFromGLImage(QImage &img, int w, int h);
 public Q_SLOTS:
diff --git a/effects/sheet/sheet.desktop b/effects/sheet/sheet.desktop
index c92def33ed..f47653c4fc 100644
--- a/effects/sheet/sheet.desktop
+++ b/effects/sheet/sheet.desktop
@@ -146,5 +146,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=60
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
diff --git a/effects/sheet/sheet.h b/effects/sheet/sheet.h
index 79fbf557e0..4b69a17d64 100644
--- a/effects/sheet/sheet.h
+++ b/effects/sheet/sheet.h
@@ -43,6 +43,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintWindow(EffectWindow* w);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 60;
+    }
+
     static bool supported();
 
     // for properties
diff --git a/effects/slide/slide.desktop b/effects/slide/slide.desktop
index 39925badc5..59f3db28c4 100644
--- a/effects/slide/slide.desktop
+++ b/effects/slide/slide.desktop
@@ -151,6 +151,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/slide.ogv
 X-KWin-Exclusive-Category=desktop-animations
diff --git a/effects/slide/slide.h b/effects/slide/slide.h
index 2e2f2ff5a6..0bfe5ab366 100644
--- a/effects/slide/slide.h
+++ b/effects/slide/slide.h
@@ -43,6 +43,10 @@ public:
     virtual void paintWindow(EffectWindow* w, int mask, QRegion region, WindowPaintData& data);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
 private Q_SLOTS:
     void slotDesktopChanged(int old, int current);
 
diff --git a/effects/slideback/slideback.desktop b/effects/slideback/slideback.desktop
index c460e71935..8b96681a78 100644
--- a/effects/slideback/slideback.desktop
+++ b/effects/slideback/slideback.desktop
@@ -118,4 +118,3 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=50
diff --git a/effects/slideback/slideback.h b/effects/slideback/slideback.h
index 2bed4a0798..c71502e5e4 100644
--- a/effects/slideback/slideback.h
+++ b/effects/slideback/slideback.h
@@ -42,6 +42,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintScreen();
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 50;
+    }
+
 public Q_SLOTS:
     void slotWindowAdded(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
     void slotWindowDeleted(KWin::EffectWindow *w);
diff --git a/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.desktop b/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.desktop
index a8f76e8e0b..f47d571366 100644
--- a/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.desktop
+++ b/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.desktop
@@ -141,5 +141,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=40
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/sliding_popups.mp4
diff --git a/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.h b/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.h
index 77f0103b49..ac3cf101d4 100644
--- a/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.h
+++ b/effects/slidingpopups/slidingpopups.h
@@ -44,6 +44,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintWindow(EffectWindow* w);
     virtual void reconfigure(ReconfigureFlags flags);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
+
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 40;
+    }
     // TODO react also on virtual desktop changes
 
     // for properties
diff --git a/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.desktop b/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.desktop
index 148f40b8e4..333d17aaad 100644
--- a/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.desktop
+++ b/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.desktop
@@ -122,6 +122,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=90
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Internal=true
diff --git a/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.h b/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.h
index 4982d14cb3..ca4d747abe 100644
--- a/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.h
+++ b/effects/startupfeedback/startupfeedback.h
@@ -43,6 +43,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintScreen();
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 90;
+    }
+
     static bool supported();
 
 private Q_SLOTS:
diff --git a/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.desktop b/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.desktop
index 901911fb45..f28d6941c1 100644
--- a/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.desktop
+++ b/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.desktop
@@ -129,6 +129,4 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 # The plugin (library) which contains the effect. One library may contain more effects.
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-# The order in which this effect is loaded.  Lower numbers are loaded first.
-X-KDE-Ordering=90
 X-KWin-Internal=true
diff --git a/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.h b/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.h
index 3ee29209ba..276eaf1d2d 100644
--- a/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.h
+++ b/effects/windowgeometry/windowgeometry.h
@@ -42,6 +42,10 @@ public:
     void paintScreen(int mask, QRegion region, ScreenPaintData &data);
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 90;
+    }
+
     // for properties
     bool isHandlesMoves() const {
         return iHandleMoves;
diff --git a/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.desktop b/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.desktop
index 82e5f539b4..5cca7f8786 100644
--- a/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.desktop
+++ b/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.desktop
@@ -157,6 +157,5 @@ X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends=
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL
 X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=false
 X-KDE-Library=kwin4_effect_builtins
-X-KDE-Ordering=45
 X-KWin-Requires-OpenGL=true
 X-KWin-Video-Url=http://files.kde.org/plasma/kwin/effect-videos/wobbly_windows.ogv
diff --git a/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.h b/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.h
index 69d1f879ea..165ec726aa 100644
--- a/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.h
+++ b/effects/wobblywindows/wobblywindows.h
@@ -53,6 +53,10 @@ public:
     virtual void postPaintScreen();
     virtual bool isActive() const;
 
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return 45;
+    }
+
     // Wobbly model parameters
     void setStiffness(qreal stiffness);
     void setDrag(qreal drag);
diff --git a/libkwineffects/kwineffects.cpp b/libkwineffects/kwineffects.cpp
index 5bdb2c8c30..328d712b5d 100644
--- a/libkwineffects/kwineffects.cpp
+++ b/libkwineffects/kwineffects.cpp
@@ -603,6 +603,11 @@ double Effect::animationTime(int defaultTime)
     return qMax(defaultTime * effects->animationTimeFactor(), 1.);
 }
 
+int Effect::requestedEffectChainPosition() const
+{
+    return 0;
+}
+
 //****************************************
 // EffectsHandler
 //****************************************
diff --git a/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h b/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h
index 7daeac6971..a190b03323 100644
--- a/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h
+++ b/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h
@@ -528,6 +528,20 @@ public:
      */
     virtual QString debug(const QString &parameter) const;
 
+    /**
+     * Reimplement this method to indicate where in the Effect chain the Effect should be placed.
+     *
+     * A low number indicates early chain position, thus before other Effects got called, a high
+     * number indicates a late position. The returned number should be in the interval [0, 100].
+     * The default value is 0.
+     *
+     * In KWin4 this information was provided in the Effect's desktop file as property
+     * X-KDE-Ordering. In the case of Scripted Effects this property is still used.
+     *
+     * @since 5.0
+     **/
+    virtual int requestedEffectChainPosition() const;
+
     static QPoint cursorPos();
 
     /**
diff --git a/scripting/scriptedeffect.cpp b/scripting/scriptedeffect.cpp
index f3ef8f2465..713c2f29f0 100644
--- a/scripting/scriptedeffect.cpp
+++ b/scripting/scriptedeffect.cpp
@@ -380,16 +380,17 @@ ScriptedEffect *ScriptedEffect::create(KService::Ptr effect)
         qDebug() << "Could not locate the effect script";
         return nullptr;
     }
-    return ScriptedEffect::create(name, scriptFile);
+    return ScriptedEffect::create(name, scriptFile, effect->property(QStringLiteral("X-KDE-Ordering")).toInt());
 }
 
-ScriptedEffect *ScriptedEffect::create(const QString& effectName, const QString& pathToScript)
+ScriptedEffect *ScriptedEffect::create(const QString& effectName, const QString& pathToScript, int chainPosition)
 {
     ScriptedEffect *effect = new ScriptedEffect();
     if (!effect->init(effectName, pathToScript)) {
         delete effect;
         return nullptr;
     }
+    effect->m_chainPosition = chainPosition;
     return effect;
 }
 
@@ -398,6 +399,7 @@ ScriptedEffect::ScriptedEffect()
     , m_engine(new QScriptEngine(this))
     , m_scriptFile(QString())
     , m_config(nullptr)
+    , m_chainPosition(0)
 {
     connect(m_engine, SIGNAL(signalHandlerException(QScriptValue)), SLOT(signalHandlerException(QScriptValue)));
 }
diff --git a/scripting/scriptedeffect.h b/scripting/scriptedeffect.h
index 3a333d0bd9..39af241b3e 100644
--- a/scripting/scriptedeffect.h
+++ b/scripting/scriptedeffect.h
@@ -104,10 +104,13 @@ public:
         return m_scriptFile;
     }
     virtual void reconfigure(ReconfigureFlags flags);
+    int requestedEffectChainPosition() const override {
+        return m_chainPosition;
+    }
     QString activeConfig() const;
     void setActiveConfig(const QString &name);
     static ScriptedEffect *create(KService::Ptr effect);
-    static ScriptedEffect *create(const QString &effectName, const QString &pathToScript);
+    static ScriptedEffect *create(const QString &effectName, const QString &pathToScript, int chainPosition);
     virtual ~ScriptedEffect();
     /**
      * Whether another effect has grabbed the @p w with the given @p grabRole.
@@ -155,6 +158,7 @@ private:
     QHash<QAction*, QScriptValue> m_shortcutCallbacks;
     QHash<int, QList<QScriptValue> > m_screenEdgeCallbacks;
     KConfigLoader *m_config;
+    int m_chainPosition;
 };
 
 }