diff --git a/client.cpp b/client.cpp
index 4b88f22a24..b576353ac7 100644
--- a/client.cpp
+++ b/client.cpp
@@ -1457,6 +1457,7 @@ void Client::setDesktop(int desktop)
         return;
 
     int was_desk = desk;
+    const bool wasOnCurrentDesktop = isOnCurrentDesktop();
     desk = desktop;
     info->setDesktop(desktop);
     if ((was_desk == NET::OnAllDesktops) != (desktop == NET::OnAllDesktops)) {
@@ -1486,6 +1487,8 @@ void Client::setDesktop(int desktop)
     if (tabGroup())
         tabGroup()->updateStates(this, TabGroup::Desktop);
     emit desktopChanged();
+    if (wasOnCurrentDesktop != isOnCurrentDesktop())
+        emit desktopPresenceChanged(this, was_desk);
 }
 
 /**
diff --git a/client.h b/client.h
index a2b3365e3d..064e82fb9e 100644
--- a/client.h
+++ b/client.h
@@ -719,6 +719,7 @@ signals:
     void activeChanged();
     void captionChanged();
     void desktopChanged();
+    void desktopPresenceChanged(KWin::Client*, int); // to be forwarded by Workspace
     void fullScreenChanged();
     void transientChanged();
     void modalChanged();
diff --git a/effects.cpp b/effects.cpp
index 087eef8f79..1df757df4d 100644
--- a/effects.cpp
+++ b/effects.cpp
@@ -228,6 +228,7 @@ EffectsHandlerImpl::EffectsHandlerImpl(Compositor *compositor, Scene *scene)
     Workspace *ws = Workspace::self();
     VirtualDesktopManager *vds = VirtualDesktopManager::self();
     connect(ws, SIGNAL(currentDesktopChanged(int,KWin::Client*)), SLOT(slotDesktopChanged(int,KWin::Client*)));
+    connect(ws, SIGNAL(desktopPresenceChanged(KWin::Client*,int)), SLOT(slotDesktopPresenceChanged(KWin::Client*,int)));
     connect(ws, SIGNAL(clientAdded(KWin::Client*)), this, SLOT(slotClientAdded(KWin::Client*)));
     connect(ws, SIGNAL(unmanagedAdded(KWin::Unmanaged*)), this, SLOT(slotUnmanagedAdded(KWin::Unmanaged*)));
     connect(ws, SIGNAL(clientActivated(KWin::Client*)), this, SLOT(slotClientActivated(KWin::Client*)));
@@ -642,6 +643,11 @@ void EffectsHandlerImpl::slotDesktopChanged(int old, Client *c)
     }
 }
 
+void EffectsHandlerImpl::slotDesktopPresenceChanged(Client *c, int old)
+{
+    emit desktopPresenceChanged(c->effectWindow(), old, c->desktop());
+}
+
 void EffectsHandlerImpl::slotWindowDamaged(Toplevel* t, const QRect& r)
 {
     if (!t->effectWindow()) {
diff --git a/effects.h b/effects.h
index 43f2c14642..b02dc839a0 100644
--- a/effects.h
+++ b/effects.h
@@ -214,6 +214,7 @@ public Q_SLOTS:
 
 protected Q_SLOTS:
     void slotDesktopChanged(int old, KWin::Client *withClient);
+    void slotDesktopPresenceChanged(KWin::Client *c, int old);
     void slotClientAdded(KWin::Client *c);
     void slotClientShown(KWin::Toplevel*);
     void slotUnmanagedAdded(KWin::Unmanaged *u);
diff --git a/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h b/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h
index 62b0a4f0c3..9a03eeb335 100644
--- a/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h
+++ b/libkwineffects/kwineffects.h
@@ -947,6 +947,15 @@ Q_SIGNALS:
      * @deprecated
      */
     void desktopChanged(int oldDesktop, int newDesktop);
+    /**
+     * Signal emitted when a window moved to another desktop
+     * NOTICE that this does NOT imply that the desktop has changed
+     * The @param window which is moved to the new desktop
+     * @param oldDesktop The previous desktop of the window
+     * @param newDesktop The new desktop of the window
+     * @since 4.11.4
+     */
+    void desktopPresenceChanged(KWin::EffectWindow *window, int oldDesktop, int newDesktop);
     /**
     * Signal emitted when the number of currently existing desktops is changed.
     * @param old The previous number of desktops in used.
diff --git a/workspace.cpp b/workspace.cpp
index 8235aaa48a..e7f103f99c 100644
--- a/workspace.cpp
+++ b/workspace.cpp
@@ -471,6 +471,7 @@ Client* Workspace::createClient(xcb_window_t w, bool is_mapped)
 #ifdef KWIN_BUILD_SCREENEDGES
     connect(c, SIGNAL(clientFullScreenSet(KWin::Client*,bool,bool)), ScreenEdges::self(), SIGNAL(checkBlocking()));
 #endif
+    connect(c, SIGNAL(desktopPresenceChanged(KWin::Client*,int)), SIGNAL(desktopPresenceChanged(KWin::Client*,int)), Qt::QueuedConnection);
     if (!c->manage(w, is_mapped)) {
         Client::deleteClient(c);
         return NULL;
@@ -1166,8 +1167,6 @@ void Workspace::sendClientToDesktop(Client* c, int desk, bool dont_activate)
         return;
     desk = c->desktop(); // Client did range checking
 
-    emit desktopPresenceChanged(c, old_desktop);
-
     if (c->isOnDesktop(VirtualDesktopManager::self()->current())) {
         if (c->wantsTabFocus() && options->focusPolicyIsReasonable() &&
                 !was_on_desktop && // for stickyness changes